Thanks Dan, i was not the guy you led out today unfortunately. Was in Main 2 and could not make a coffee after. Thanks for the advice. I had a bit of a read about 520 v 820 v 1000 and ‘edging’ towards the 520. I am concerned with the navigation as it’s something I am looking for, but reading other views on the devices i think the 520 has more kudos as the other 2 seem to have disadvantages in terms of touchscreen and battery life. I think you can work round the mapping on the 520 as well and don’t venture off known routes anyway. And…. it’s cheaper which is always a bonus 🙂 cheers, Paul